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the table. >> to get a big package would require a big tax increase in the middle of the economic situation that's extraordinarily difficult with 9.2% unemployment. it's a terrible idea. it's a job-killer. >> reporter: on sin's "meet the press," treasury secretary tim geithner said failing to reach a deal would be catastrophic. >> we need to do something substantial to bring our long term deficit down over time. >> reporter: the stakes high as the two sides try again today. so, the president will be answering questions at a press conference scheduled for 11 a.m. eastern time this morning. he'll then meet with congressional leaders this afternoon. he's asked republicans to bring specifics for their plan. >> thanks so much. a reminder for you, we'll have live coverage of the president's news conference beginning at 11 a.m. eastern time right here on msnbc. the place for politics. >>> officials at nasa are closely monitoring a piece of so-called space junk, which is on a potential collision course with the space shuttle "atlantis" and the international space station. nasa estimates that the ob
today? >> this wouldn't be the big deal if this is the only day, but this is day after day the spring into the summer. then let's pile on a top of humidity. that gets to the people and aggravates everyone. this is where the center of the heat is. right over the top of the eastern half of the country with the exception not being up in the great lakes. this is already the heat index. what time is it? it's 10:00. we are at 105 already in louisville. areas of memphis, nashville and st. louis are right behind. the worst has been centered over the ohio river valley and southern indiana. later today, this is my forecast heat index. this is how hot i'm predicting it's going to get. the worst is up here with the dew points at the highest. we are thinking 110 in louisville, 110 in nashville. i've got my money on 115 in memphis as the hottest heat index in the country. it goes from oklahoma city to the east coast. this is one of the first humid days we had from new york to deep, deep baltimore, raleigh. you go down the coast with no exceptions. this is historic in oklahoma city. we now had 13 da
with the big debt talk. congressional leadering returning to the table this morning, after the grand bargain broke down last saturday and a tense 75-minute meeting last night failed to move negotiations forward. at 11:00 this morning, the president will hold a news conference to press publicly for his big deal. yesterday, his top economic adviser said the u.s. is out of options. >> we make 80 million checks a month to americans, 55 million people on social security benefits, millions more americans on veterans benefits, medicare, medicaid. people who supply our troops in combat. on august 2nd, we're left with cash on hand and the cash we take in. there is no credible way to give congress more time. there's no constitutional option, there's no delay option, there's no creative financial option. they have to act by the 2nd. >> no constitutional option, 14th amendment, off the table. here's what we know, debt talks appear to be at an impasse and here's why. the president is still pushing a big deal. democrats say the fallback plan, this $2 trillion plus package that was partially negotiated in
, to have a big fight in washington about what we are going to prioritize in this country, what we are going to spend money on and not going to spend money on. the president said yesterday the fight about the debt ceiling is not going to be some short-term stop-gap measure to tie the fight over to another day. the president said he wants to have the fight now. we are coming out of the great recession, but still tough times economically. given that, how should we be allocating our resources as a country? the republican stance in this big argument, the republican position is that they will not allow taxes to go up one penny, even if democrats only want to raise taxes on the richest people in the country. >> a tax hike cannot pass the u.s. house of representatives. it's not just a bad idea, it doesn't have the votes, and it can't happen. the american people don't want us to raise taxes. >> american people do not want us to raise taxes, makes for a nice, tidy, talking point in this fight. it does not, however, appear to be a true talking point. most recent poll to poll on this question said when
come back from europe, there's a disparages disbelief. last thursday there was a big meeting about the euro zone crisis. whatever you think of the plan they come up, however, they all came together, came up with a plafç to avert crisis. looking at washington's politicians and thinking, hey, hang on a minute, they're as -- >> didn't you run a bureau -- >> i was in italy last week in fact. the analogy is apt. the difference is the market shook italy two weeks ago into doing something. they pass add 40 billion euro austerity plan, because the market freaked out. >> and in england as well. we held that deficit reduction, because we were worried about the market. here? >> i want to go back to jonathan's point, and this is -- i think people are trying to understand the implications. because america is the reserve currency of the world, because all the oil, the commodities, everything that exists, that china sells to brazil, that saudi arabia sells to europe is priced in u.s. dollars. it is incredibly unclear to what the implication of not paying it, because it is the only currency. beyo
're going to have to push the big changes to deal with the deficit and debt, going to have to go down the road a bit and to the long term, maybe more than ten years? >> chris, i don't know about more than ten years, but certainly as you know, simpson boles, senator simpson and former chief of staff irskin boles, in their report they proposed making substantial cuts, raising revenues and across the board with all items of expansion. but they said in the near term, meaning the next year of so, we need to be very careful that we did not have the opposite effect by dampening down the struggling economy, obviously, as we saw today, which will decrease revenues and make the problem worse, not better. so in the short term, i agree with the bowles-simpson suggestion that we be very careful in the short term. there's no doubt, however, in the white house yesterday, or thursday -- yesterday -- there was a clear agreement that this was a serious, serious challenge that confronted us and it demanded at all of us try to come together and reach an agreement whereby we will certainly over the next 1
's headlines about the campaign's big haul and tell you why we're a tad underwemed. >> >> dyou got to check the sel date, it's wednesday, july 13th, 2013. i'm chuck todd, an unbelievable hump day, feels like it's forever bigger here in washington, where i begin my first read this morning. it's the beginning of the end game for negotiations on the federal debt. with pessimism building that leerds will produce a deal and avoid default mitch mcconnell proposed plan c, a contingency, what i like to call the hail mary punt. he set the stage on the senate floor with this pretty rough attack on the president. >> after years of discussions and months of negotiations, i have little question that as long as this president is in the oval office a real solution is probably unattainable. >> mr. mcconnell said the day i was elected that his job was to try to see me beat. i'll have to explain how it is that we're going to avoid default because i'm going to be president here for at least another year and a half. >> right after that interview, mcconnell unveiled this plan c. he would hand over to the presid
have a big jump in revenue. obama has been saying let's thai the bush tax cuts are going to lapse and we are going to extend the ones for the middle class. republicans are afraid to let him do that up front. it would kill momentum for a tax reform. >> but, but, but why just get rid of the bush tax cuts. if they are so awful, why not get rid of all of them. get rid of all of them for everybody. if tax cuts are the worst thing ever, the bush tax cuts, get rid of the bush tax cuts for everybody and raise billions in revenue. >> right. i think we could probably figure it out sitting around the table. i don't think it's that difficult. they are locked in in political terms. it's a much different issue to them. you can make rational compromises and deals here. the problem is, how do they do it. what's happening is they are at the point where they realize the consequences. at some point, they realize they have to do something other than hold the ground saying this is it. we're not going to change anything. we are at that point and we have little time to work with. >> howard dean, look wh
strike the big deal. again, president obama will be speaking the that this morning at about 11:00 eastern time. the man in charge of the country's finances, adding his voice to the debt debate yesterday, treasury secretary tim geithner stressed the urgency of reaching a compromise during a news conference on capitol hill. >> we looked at all available options and we have no way to give congress more time to solve this problem. we're running out of time. the eyes of the country are on us. the eyes of the world are on us. we need to make sure we stand together and send a definitive signal that we're going to take the steps necessary to avoid default and also take advantage of this opportunity to make some progress in dealing with our long-term fiscal problems. we don't have much time. it's time we move. >> secretary guider in's warning comes as a second agency now says the u.s. credit rating could take a hit due to the debt ceiling impasse. >>> let's get an early look at the markets as we get up in your business. cnbc's jeff cutmore is live in london. >> as you imagine, much of the market r
are loop hoeholing loopholings. >> shouldn't they hold firm, democrats, on this. >> this is a big step forward for john cornyn, one of the big leaders in the -- a leader in the republican senate campaign committee to suggest they're open to the idea if not in the intermediate term closing loopholes is an important first step. it suggests that you can win some of your concessions you want here. if you're going to take drastic steps to reform medicare and medicaid and social security, which i agree we should, you should also hold firm to say that some are going to have their taxes changed. if the middle class and the people below the middle class are going to make sacrifices, and all americans should. people on the upper oechend sho as well. hopefully they'll agree to a corporate tax cut and hopefully doing something incentivize businesses hiring going forward. >> we got some great segment ms ahead. and must reads. the tax issue hurts it economy to deal with this a little bit and get what the democrats want on this. i don't think it does. >> i want patrick to explain this. he never quite
of the economy. does that mean we're going to have to push the big changes to deal with the debt and the debt are going to have to go down the road a bit and to the long-term maybe more than ten years? >> well, chris, i don't know about more than ten years. certainly as you know in simpson/bowles, senator simpson and former chief of staff erskine bowles, in their report they posited that we needed to and they proposed making substantial cuts, raising revenues and dealing across the board with all items of expenditure. they said in the near term, meaning the next year or so we need to be very careful that we did not have the opposite effect by dampening down the struggling economy obviously as we saw today which will decrease revenues and make the problem so in the short term i agree with the bowles/simpson suggestion that we be very careful in the short-term. there is no doubt, however, that in the white house yesterday or thursday there was -- that was yesterday, there was a clear agreement that this was a serious, serious challenge that confronted us. and it demanded that all of us try to c
or not the italian banks have enough cash on their balance sheets. we've seen quite a big turn-around in the market. many stocks opening lower by as much as 5% to 10% and now trading in positive territory after the finance minister, the economy minister is heading back to rome from brussels and will be looking at the austerity measures and pushing them through. >> we know yesterday the dow down 151 points, the biggest drop in over a month. thanks so much for bringing us up to speed, we appreciate it. >>> else where, hundreds of syrian government protesters stormed the u.s. and french embassies in damascus, the protesters smashing windows and spray-painting walls with obscenities aimed at the american ambassador. guards at the french embassy fired into the air to ward off the demonstrators there. some warning shots. the violence and tension follow as visit by the american and french ambassadors to the city of hama, stronghold of opposition to the president. during a joint press conference at the state department, secretary of state hillary clinton warned assad about inciting future attacks. >> presi
a lot to talk about. big news over the budget and deficit reduction. president obama is rejecting calls for a short-term hike. he made a rare appearance in the press room. he's challenging them to seize the moment and cut a deal. >> i don't think the american people here sent us here to avoid tough problems. it's, in fact, what drives them nuts about washington. when both parties simply take the path of least resistance. i don't want to do that here. i believe right now, we have a unique opportunity to do something big. to tackle our deficit in a way that forces our government to live within our means. still allows us to invest in that future. >> all right. sounds good. sounds hopeful, it does. maybe something will get done, like everyone is going to come in. less than an hour after the president's invitation, john boehner missed the discussions saying a deal won't pass in the house, if it includes tax increases. he said, i'm happy to discuss the issues at the white house, but the discussions are fruitless until the president recognizes economic and legislative reality. >> that doesn't
>>> good day. i'm in for con tesz ya brewer. we're covering the big news from coast to coast. the hot topic is just that. we're talking about the sorching summer heat. >> beautiful weather out there if you love heat and humidity. today will be the hottest and most humid day of the summer. >> today? >> look at the numbers. right up into the triple digits. >> dallas has been baking in 100 degree temperatures for ten straight days. >> horrible. horrible. >> near hudson, texas, it's not the heat or the humidity, that's the drought. >> oouf never seen it like this. >> across the south temperatures are soaring and water levels are sinning. it's so bad a south georgia man is sharing the water from his pool. >> we're carrying buckets of water back and forth to the neighbors. >> in the midwest oppressive heat claimed one life. a man found dead inside his mobile home on sunday, the air conditioner wasn't working. >> this is oppressive and dangerous heat affecting more than 20 states and more than 90 million people. >> there are heat advisories or warnings in 24 of the 48 lower states.
that she could catch fire. look, when you start this thing, when you win iowa, if you win iowa big, that thing starts rolling through new hampshire and south carolina, it's over in weeks. i agree 100%. >> how was she going in philadelphia suburbs? how is she going to do in the i-4 corridor and in wisconsin? how is she going to do in new mexico, arizona? i would suggest, with swing voters not well at all. >> there's no doubt if you nominate michele bachmann, it's an enormous risk. the only conditions, i think, under which i believe she could win the presidency, if people say, if they did in 1980, i don't care, i'm taking a chance with this guy because what we got we can't stand, you get 9% or 10% unemployment, two more years, this country is ready for a lot of change. more "morning joe" in a moment. with the hotels.com 48-hour sale, the possibilities are endless. interesting... save up to 50% this tuesday and wednesday only. hotels.com. be smart. book smart.  finally, there's a choice for my patients with an irregular heartbeat called atrial fibrillation, or afib, that's not cause
. how exciting. >> they match. >> they do match. >> the big news of the day, yesterday, of course, was moody's coming out and saying, listen, we don't expect this to happ happen. the chances are slight this is going to happen. just the chance it may happen, we are going to downgrade america's credit rating. >> we are going to put it on credit watch to downgrade it or we will downgrade it if it happens. first of all, the rating agencies were behind the curve during the whole financial crisis and they took a lot of heat for that. now they are trying to be more proactive. when you have a congress that refuses to address the issue, what do they do? it's not a shocker. it's another symbol of how dysfunctional things are in washington and what the stakes are and how dangerous it is. you know a few people across the globe. >> i like it when mika says it better. >> say international financeer. >> i would think these are trying times for banks across the world. look at ireland a second time. it's spread to italy. we have all heard -- greece, portugal. it's all across europe. it's coming to
think speaker boehner has been very sincere about trying to do something big. i think he'd like to do something big. his politics within his caucus are very difficult. >> well, here's what he means. in a new poll, we see the complicated political caucus they are dealing with. the number of americans who are very concerned about default has ticked up seven points in the last two months. then it was just 35% believe not raising the limit and risking default was worse than raising it and potentially spurring more spending. now 42% see greater risk in a potential default, 47% are more concerned about lifting the limit but the gap has narrowed. that gets you talking about the education of the public in the last two months. look at the republican side. the folks who have been more engaged in this debate since the outset, the numbers have only hardened. 66% of republicans are more concerned with raising the debt limit compared to 60% in may. that number rises to 75% among republicans who identify with the tea party. so this is the issue. and speaker boehner has said he would only raise the d
is it shows that the united states system is not set up to do big things. when a crisis like this comes up they cannot do a deal that would show stability to the world. >> ronald reagan and tip o'neal made big deals. in the 1990s, bill clinton and the republican congress made big deals. and mika, it's not over yet, but it has gotten to the point already that this is damaging the reputation of the united states the longer it goes, and i think we're talking about it damaging our reputation more every day that the crisis goes on. >> i think both sides would agree with that. after a weekend of meetings resulting in yet another impasse, president obama is canceling two fundraisers today to continue negotiations. senate majority leader harry reid said the talks broke down last night because of the republicans insistence on a short-term deal, and their plan would cut $2.7 trillion over the next ten years. officials say it raises the debt ceiling but no tax increases. and he salaid out his latest solution. >> there will be a two-stage possible. it's not physically possible to do this in one step.
this theater for however long it's been now really pumps it up. i never thought there was going to be a big deficit or debt reduction deal between the two parties because it's not in the interest of either party. i think the republicans were tactically terrible because they allowed obama to sort of portray himself or present himself as the one who is above the fray and who is interested in making the most cuts to the budget and to the debt going forward. and then making it appear, not appear but it's true, the republicans are walking away from a real deal to cut spending in this country. also, it gave obama and the democrats a chance to spotlight the republicans position on taxes. there's no way to get a handle on budget deficits over the long term debt without raising somebody's taxes. >> if this is raising the white flag, if this is going against the base, what is the difference between this and cutting a deal on tax loopholes and other things that would not impact their message overall. what makes this better? >> this is horrible. >> it's stupid. >> it's a nightmare. it's cynical. the se
. if you are going to rule out medicare now and say yeah, we are going to make big cuts but rule out medicare. that means democrats are focusing on 10%, discretionary spending that is our investments, r & d, education, infrastructure. the things we need to double and triple down on. the things we can afford to do in trying to catch up with china if we take care of the long-term structural debt on taxes, on health care and these other issues. >> yeah, we talked about the fact our health care system is at least 50% more expensive procedure by procedure than any other place in the world. we have this grip on a lot of the health care sector. we need health care reform. this is obvious. but it's been obvious for years. they don't do it on either side. >> coming up, connecticut governor dannel mall low. >> he's going to yell at you. >> i think he's in for a fight, yeah. yeah. >> mika is mad. she's not putting up with it anymore. >> this is incredible. sexual assault allegations against strauss-kahn. why it's on the verge of collapse. >> he was in yonkers at the time. come on. >>> first, he
to figure something out over the weekend. >> yeah. you know, luke, the big difference between the house gop plan and the senate democrat plan is that this balanced budget amendment, that's what the gop wants. beyond that, though, both plans seem to call for spending caps for special committees to find more deficit cuts. they almost seem similar, though, when i posed that to chuck todd, he was, like, yeah, but there are very important big points, and they're far apart on those. do you agree with that? it's one of those things which if you had approached this to a republican last year, they would have signed it in two seconds. the top leadership aides will admit that. to talk about the reid deal. what you see the similarities is trillion dollars in spending, spending caps. the two significant differences, though, are this. it's the balanced budget amendment that was added specifically because the tea party freshmen in the house wanted it in there, and on top of that, democrats do not want to go play for this process again in about six or sech months. they want this to go through 2012 because
are going to have a big choice -- they picked this fight with the president for a reason, the debt limit is not going to be raised unless we do something on the deficit projections now and in to the future. but the problem with the house republicans is, they never answered affirmatively in a politically sa political politically saliable way what the a the answer should be. you have to have a plan that can pass both chambers and the president can sign. otherwise, you're talking past the other party. >> the question is, nicole, what is republican position right now? at the end of last week, we had republican leaders on in the house, guys i like very much personally. been a champion of paul ryan. back from the time i met him, in 1994. but we ask, what do you want? and their position was, it's not enough to close the tax loopholes. we've got to cut tax rates, income tax rates for individuals and corporations. that's not going to happen in 2011. they know it's not going to happen. i say, okay, let's say you got that done, would that be enough? then paul ryan said, no. we need a fundamental tr
-term deal. let's look for the big fix. the president says, luke, let's go for the big fix and now the republicans are going, wait a minute. what gives? luke. >> politics is the art of the possible. a lot of folks on capitol hill feel right now that a short-term solution is the only thing possible because of the eight-day time window that you mentioned. that being said, there are two very different plans which you talked about in the introduction which are going through capitol hill right now. speaker boehner plan is going to have an extension, which gets us through the wipter. i'm told that speaker boehner's going to brief his house republican conference at 2:00 p.m. about the details of that plan. won't get extremely specific. then for all intensive purposes it looks from discussions i've had with certain aides that you can see as early as wednesday a house of representatives votes on speaker boehner's plan. harry reid is going to go his own way with a $2.7 trillion reduction plan across the board. both of these contessa are different than any of the grand bargains. reid's extend
. they have basically yielded to republicans on a big conceptual point. linking, lifting the debt ceiling to spending cuts and -- >> two things republicans still want. a dollar for dollar cut in spending to match a debt ceiling increase and a trigger mechanism for a balanced budget amendment. holding out ideologically. speaker boehner when asked about the reid plan earlier. let's listen. >> i believe that the plan is full of gimmicks. we're not making any real changes in the spending structure of our government, and it doesn't deal with the biggest drivers of our deficit and our debt, and that would be entitlement programs. >> the republicans-- >> they're not touching that either. putting it to the side now. >> how can he say that, then? >> they have forgotten the number one rule of hostagetaking. when the other sides gives into your demands you let the hostage go. i don't think they're interested in doing that. at least 100 members on the house republican side want to blow up the economy because they think they will save the economy. >> and they're certainly willing to risk a worldwide e
tax breaks for wealthy americans and big corporations, and speaker boehner really digging in his heels saying he would not support anything, any deal that included something that looked like a tax hike. so with that, we begin these fourth round of talks today. will we get any different resolution from these talks? we will have to wait and see, but again, martin, as you pointed out, the rhetoric is heating up, and there is certainly a lot of skepticism going into the talks today. >> and kristen, the president has given ground, and he admits that his own supporters are angry about it, and he said yesterday that he was prepared to take heat. so where does he go from here if republicans are unwilling to compromise? is this meeting today utterly pointless? >> well, i don't know if it is utterly pointless, but the president is making the point that there is no place to go from here that we have to come to a deal, that both sides have to basically take on their sacred cows, and he is really ramping up the pressure to do that in an interview earlier today, he made the point that if they don't
wants to spread today. it's a big decision. there's a lot of people here. you can imagine the frantic mood outside of the courthouse and inside this hallway. >> one of the details that jumped out over the last couple days to a lot of people was this number of 21 years. some people believe that he could get only 21 years for the death of at least 93 people if he is found dlt of that. but it's more nuanced than that. can you explain that, jay? >> it is. and 21 years is the sentence at this point. there's a new law, but there's an act that would make it longer, 30 years. what prosecutors hope to do in this case, is after that time is served, should he become guilty, if he poses a threat to society. if there's a danger in releasing him. they can convene in a panel. they can keep him detained three years. and reconvene every three years after. they can impose a life sentence here. but it will be done every three years or so to keep him behind bars. >> that's the good news. there would be a way. jay, how right now on this monday, is the city of oslo and the country of norway doing? this was
break. >> okay. >> then the heat is going to come back and it could come back big time next week. next week is looking like we could be sweating it out once again. >> more of those 115 heat indexes we saw today. >> yeah. >>> we begin with baseball's all-star game in phoenix. the winning league gets homefield advantage in the world series. in the bottom of the -- there's the tip of the cap from brian wilson of the giants. why not show that? second inning, toronto's jose a batista clearly sliding. risked life and limb. nice play. dave robertson likes it. the game was scoreless in the fourth when adrian gonzalez takes cliff lee deep to right center. a shot. first one of the game, a.l. up, 1-0. batista trying to score from second. watch the gun from hunter pence of the astros. just a dart. prince fielder, talk about his shot. that's a three-run home run about as deep as you can hit it there. one swing, the national league has the lead. jordan walden gets the runner here, castro at home. a nice bare hand play. gets him at the plate. the national league was ahead, 5-1, in the eighth inning.
is prepared to shoot at big targets in afghanistan. it's a bad signal about how ready the pakistanis are to confront terror networks in their own country. >> jane harman from the woodrow wilson center, thank you very much. >>> and up next here, the arab uprising and the secret weapon being used to get around governments trying to silence the masses. >>> and still ahead, education nation, the battle over no child left behind in congress. my conversation with arne duncan here in aspen. [ woman ] we take it a day at a time. that's how it is with alzheimer's disease. she needs help from me. and her medication. the exelon patch -- it releases medication continuously for twenty-four hours. she uses one exelon patch daily for the treatment of mild to moderate alzheimer's symptoms. [ female announcer ] it cannot change the course of the disease. hospitalization and rarely death have been reported in patients who wore more than one patch at a time. the most common side effects of exelon patch are nausea, vomiting, and diarrhea. the likelihood and severity of these side effects may increase as
to have a couple big social security payments and interest payments due, so it's not entirely clear to the markets or to anybody else when treasury will exhaust its reserves. >> annie lowery, economic and business reporter for slate. >>> well, joining me from the hill now illinois republican congressman robert dold who serves on the financial services committee. representative dold, thanks for being here this morning. it's a busy day. >> thanks for having me. i appreciate it. >> i know, sir, that you supported john boehner's plan, but you say you would have voted for it without a budget balanced amendment. why are some of your colleagues saying they need that fully knowing it would not pass the senate? >> the number of my colleagues booef e plea of we have to change the way washington is working, so we've been grossly overspending for a long period of time. it's been happening on both sides of the aisle. it's a clear washington problem. american families have tightened their belt. american businesses have done the same. they should expect that the federal government should be able t
is the last day of the big heat here. tomorrow is a cooler day and much better next week. >> for those of us who had to walk through the city yesterday this concrete jungle when you walked past those stores with the air-conditioning blowing out, a second of relief as you walk through it. can i ask you about the humidity danger. we had 104 yesterday as you're saying that's two degrees shy of an all time high. but you know, you add in the humidity, eric, 113, 114 it feels like. how does this make things dangerous? >> it stresses your body. when you sweat you can feel when it's humid it sits on you. when that evaporates in dry air that's how your body cools off. when it's humid outside, you don't get that relief. your body is working harder that's when people succumb to heatstroke and heat related issues. that's what makes this weather so dashlgs. >> eric fisher many thanks. >>> well developing now in europe. a nation in shock this morning after a killing spree claims the lives of at least 91 people apparently carried out by one man. police in norway say they've arrested a man connected to both
. luke, what kind of response are lawmakers getting today on capitol hill? >> quite a big one, contessa. we can report that earlier this morning the house call center the communication arm of the house in charge of all the house telephones sent out an email to members saying quote, due to the high volume of external calls to the house telephone circuits they are near capacity. some members should be receiving busy signals. several house websites crashed specifically that of speaker of the house john boehner. the question is whether or not it will transfer into some sort of change of what the status quo is right now and that really is both sides digging in quite rigidly on their plans. democrats supporting harry reid's plan the $2.7 trillion cut across the board. republicans in favor of john boehner's plan, with an extension of the debt limit. that's where both sides are still very much. >> kristen, let's talk with you about where the white house goes from here. can they capitalize on this? the people are willing to go online -- i had trouble getting on the house website today maybe not
of the small group -- well, i don't know how big the group, whatever group was involved in criminality. >> did you close it because of the criminality? >> hmm? >> did you close the paper down because of the criminality? >> yes, we felt ashamed of what had happened and felt to bring it to a close. >> people lied to you and lied to their readers? >> we had broken our trust with our readers. but it's the important point was we had broken our trust with our readers. >> are you aware that there are other forms of illicit surveillance being used by private investigators that were used by news international? >> other forms of? >> illicit surveillance, computer hacking -- >> no. >> if the evidence is produced -- >> i mean i think all news organizations have used private detectives and do so in their investigations from time to time. i don't think illegally. >> if it could be shown to you that private investigators working for newspapers in news international used forms of illicit surveillance like computer hacking, would you immediately introduce another investigation? >> that would be up to the polic
, actually, if they know there's a big deal behind it will be quite -- wouldn't they, john heilemann? >> i think so. the time is tough right now. listen to harry reid and mitch mcconnell who know how the senate works and how long it takes to do the following things, to reform medicare and tax reform. they are things that typically can take many months to get done. >> isn't it a surprise? it wasn't a surprise the show started at 6:00 a.m. on the east coast. it's no surprise we have a deadline. >> to build the legislation is not something that can happen in the span of four or five days. you can't. the key issue is what obama will be wanting to see is the outlines of a deal where he has a good assurance the outlines of the deal can get past once the meat is put on the bones. if that's the case and the markets see that, everything will be fine. whether it's a few days extension or a couple weeks, it's going to take a lot to get to that point. there's no consensus on the house side among house republicans in favor of what the gang of six is doing. as we saw in the film, the video, house democr
wider responsibilities, we had calls from many of the big shareholders saying it was a terrible thing to take him away because he had done such a great job. >> i said i wasn't disputing that, but the fact that you have been -- that you didn't know about so many of these criminal activities that went on, do you not think that was made more likely because of the sort of family history? i don't just mean james, i'm talking about people who weren't direct members of your family but became friends. >> no. >> you don't think that -- >> i don't think -- >> why it has been mismanaged. >> i don't think mr. hinton misled me for a minute but you must make your own conclusion. other people who gave the same evidence may well have been misleading, but he certainly did not know of anything. >> thank you very much. >> i've got two more members. >> before i address my questions to the hearing, i'd like to make a short declaration of my own which is something i previously declared to the committee which is to say my wife is an employee of a company that has been engaged by news corporation. i just wan
there will be a resolution if they stretch it out, and there is a big treasury action scheduled for august 4th, and if that were not to be sold or if the interest rates on it would have to go appreciably higher that could trigger a sell-off and another problem as well, but whether it is august 2nd, 3rd, 4th, there is a resolution of this, because the al terntives are just really too dire to conceive. >> thank you, andrea mitchell, for joining us. >>> and the man of evil, and did he really act alone? while energy developement comes with some risk, north america's natural gas producers are committed to safely and responsibly providing decades of cleaner burning energy for our country, drilling thousands of feet below fresh water sources within self contained well systems and using state of the art monitoring technologies, rigorous practices help ensure our operations are safe and clean for our communities and the environment we are america's natural gas. [ male announcer ] get ready for the left lane. the volkswagen autobahn for all event is back. right now, get a great deal on new volkswagen mo
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